Caution: Mood swings ahead
Sep. 29th, 2002 01:52 amDon't you hate being caught in the middle?
What do you do when people you really like are friends with someone who hates your guts?
How can you comprehend how someone who is your friend is also friends with someone who has openly stated their animosity towards you, but has never even spoken to you and knows nothing about you?
I'm sorry for babbling, I'm just feeling a bit depressed right now. I pride myself on being a genuinely nice person, friendly and cheerful with malice towards none, so I really don't understand how anyone can hate me, or how anyone who claims to be my friend can also be friends with my enemy. I don't even want them to be my enemy, they just are. Which makes me so sad.
Anyway.
I finally downloaded the Semagic client, and it's brilliant. Hurrah. :)
This is most amusing, thanks
marcyleecorgan --- a fun game from http://www.playmash.com/
My results:
You will live in a House.
You will drive Crowley's 1926 black Bentley.
You will marry Neil Gaiman
You will be a singer in London.
Ahhhh if only...*giggles*
My CD sountrack of 'Once More, With Feeling' (the Buffy musical episode) arrived in the post this morning, and I just have one thing to say about it -- GOD BLESS JOSS WEDON! I can't believe what an amazing talent for writing lyrics he has, and he writes some cracking tunes as well. This is such an amazing soundtrack, I really hope there'll be more of musical Buffy in the future. If they can make Batman and even King Kong into a Broadway show, surely there is hope for a full all singing all dancing stage show of the Buffster and gang. *grins*
And now for a really interesting quiz, courtesy of the clever and talented
bluerhapsody
Seven things you fear:
1. Dying
2. Rejection
3. Being alone
4. Pain
5. Ridicule
6. Ants. I *hate* ants.
7. Clown dolls. Yes, they are evil.
Seven things that make you laugh:
1. Monty Python
2. Reading 'Good Omens' by Neil Gaiman and Terry Pratchett is always good for a laugh
3. Playing the Monkey Island series of graphic adventure games
4. Anything by Bill Bryson, Carl Hiassen and Douglas Adams
5. Clever sarcastic wit
6. I think I'm pretty damn funny ;-)
7. Giggling with friends (like
eyre_lasgalen and
wreibyn ) over very silly things
Seven people that make you laugh:
1. Nick
2. Eyre and Kara
3. Michael Palin
4. Oscar Wilde
5. The Weasley Twins
6. Arthur Dent
7. Pippin
Seven things you love doing:
1. Laughing
2. Reading
3. Singing
4. Being with friends
5. Sleeping
6. Going to the theatre
7. Did I mention I love to laugh? :)
Seven people you love (excluding parents/family and yourself):
1. Eyre and Kara (yes, they are one entity *giggles*)
2. Neil Gaiman
3. Billy Boyd
4. Crystal
5. Aqui
6. Chrysti
7. Dinnee
And loads more. *mwah* :)
Seven things you hate/dislike strongly:
1. Ignorance
2. Stupidity
3. Prejudice
4. Mustard
5. Fake online spelling. 'Teh' and 'Ph33R' are not words
6. Mullet hairstyles. The 80's are OVER people!
7. Bloody useless gross out comedies like American Pie and all it's progeny. UGH.
Seven things you don't understand:
1. Love
2. Hate
3. Pain
4. Cruelty
5. Brussel Sprouts
6. Maths
7. Why no one realizes how brilliant I really am
Seven things on your desk:
1. Hedgehogs!
2. Mr Webcam
3. Loreena McKennit and Tori Amos CDs
4. My newly arrived American edition of 'Coraline' signed by Neil Gaiman
5. Lots of pictures I still need to get scanned
6. A small bottle of Apple Tango
7. Various computer accessories (printer, scanner, etc)
Right now you are:
1. Alternating between very depressed and my normal cheerful self
2. Bored
3. Wishing I had Billy Boyd's phone number
4. Wishing I was popular
6. Wishing I had more friends
7. Playing with Hannah the Hedgehog
Seven facts about you:
1. I am a procastinating perfectionist -- 'if it's not perfect it's not worth doing.'
2. I have met all 5 remaining members of Monty Python's Flying Circus
3. If I were an animal I would be a cute, playful otter.
4. I have an almost insufferable tendency to look down on those less clever than me
5. I was bitten by a wild dolphin when I was seven years old
6. I fall madly in love with fictional characters
7. I love sushi.
Seven things you plan to do before you die:
1. Go back to New Zealand
2. Sing onstage in the West End or Broadway
3. Meet all the famous and talented people that I love
4. Learn to accept and love myself
5. Learn Elvish and/or Japanese
6. Eat all the fabulous foods I've ever wanted
7. Invent a way to live forever ;-)
Seven things you can do:
1. Recite the words to every Monty Python sketch
2. Sing!
3. Spout absolutely useless trivia for any situation
4. Eat sushi and like it
5. Sleep all day
6. Guffaw and giggle at the same time
7. Teleport. Well, no, not really. *grins*
Seven things you can't do:
1. Remember any of the French or Latin I once knew (8 years of lessons and now *poof*, its all gone)
2. Feel confident
3. Lie convincingly
4. Eat mustard
5. Wake up at 5am with a smile on my face
6. Write poetry
7. Dance
Seven (famous) people you want to meet: (Does it matter if they're dead? too bad)
1. Oscar Wilde
2. Jane Austen
3. Billy Boyd
4. JK Rowling
5. Alan Rickman
6. Stephen Fry
7. Ian McKellen
Top seven songs people should give a listen.
1. Pop Singers Fear of the Pollen Count -- The Divine Comedy
2. Precious Things -- Tori Amos
3. All Souls Night -- Loreena McKennit
4. She Moved Through the Fair -- Lothlorien
5. King of Spain -- Moxy Fruvous
6. Alternative Girlfriend -- Barenaked Ladies
7. Eleanor Rigby -- The Beatles
Seven movies you watch all the time:
1. Wargames
2. The Lord of the Rings - The Fellowship of the Ring
3. Sneakers
4. The Truth About Cats and Dogs
5. Labyrinth
6. The Princess Bride
7. Monty Python's Life of Brian
Top 7 things you say the most:
1. Squeeee!
2. Go me!
3. Brilliant!
4. Bah.
5. Arse!
6. Ohmygod!
7. Cool. :)
Well, now that I have just wasted an obsene amount of time filling out that quiz, I think I shall retire to bed. :)
What do you do when people you really like are friends with someone who hates your guts?
How can you comprehend how someone who is your friend is also friends with someone who has openly stated their animosity towards you, but has never even spoken to you and knows nothing about you?
I'm sorry for babbling, I'm just feeling a bit depressed right now. I pride myself on being a genuinely nice person, friendly and cheerful with malice towards none, so I really don't understand how anyone can hate me, or how anyone who claims to be my friend can also be friends with my enemy. I don't even want them to be my enemy, they just are. Which makes me so sad.
Anyway.
I finally downloaded the Semagic client, and it's brilliant. Hurrah. :)
This is most amusing, thanks
My results:
You will live in a House.
You will drive Crowley's 1926 black Bentley.
You will marry Neil Gaiman
You will be a singer in London.
Ahhhh if only...*giggles*
My CD sountrack of 'Once More, With Feeling' (the Buffy musical episode) arrived in the post this morning, and I just have one thing to say about it -- GOD BLESS JOSS WEDON! I can't believe what an amazing talent for writing lyrics he has, and he writes some cracking tunes as well. This is such an amazing soundtrack, I really hope there'll be more of musical Buffy in the future. If they can make Batman and even King Kong into a Broadway show, surely there is hope for a full all singing all dancing stage show of the Buffster and gang. *grins*
And now for a really interesting quiz, courtesy of the clever and talented
Seven things you fear:
1. Dying
2. Rejection
3. Being alone
4. Pain
5. Ridicule
6. Ants. I *hate* ants.
7. Clown dolls. Yes, they are evil.
Seven things that make you laugh:
1. Monty Python
2. Reading 'Good Omens' by Neil Gaiman and Terry Pratchett is always good for a laugh
3. Playing the Monkey Island series of graphic adventure games
4. Anything by Bill Bryson, Carl Hiassen and Douglas Adams
5. Clever sarcastic wit
6. I think I'm pretty damn funny ;-)
7. Giggling with friends (like
Seven people that make you laugh:
1. Nick
2. Eyre and Kara
3. Michael Palin
4. Oscar Wilde
5. The Weasley Twins
6. Arthur Dent
7. Pippin
Seven things you love doing:
1. Laughing
2. Reading
3. Singing
4. Being with friends
5. Sleeping
6. Going to the theatre
7. Did I mention I love to laugh? :)
Seven people you love (excluding parents/family and yourself):
1. Eyre and Kara (yes, they are one entity *giggles*)
2. Neil Gaiman
3. Billy Boyd
4. Crystal
5. Aqui
6. Chrysti
7. Dinnee
And loads more. *mwah* :)
Seven things you hate/dislike strongly:
1. Ignorance
2. Stupidity
3. Prejudice
4. Mustard
5. Fake online spelling. 'Teh' and 'Ph33R' are not words
6. Mullet hairstyles. The 80's are OVER people!
7. Bloody useless gross out comedies like American Pie and all it's progeny. UGH.
Seven things you don't understand:
1. Love
2. Hate
3. Pain
4. Cruelty
5. Brussel Sprouts
6. Maths
7. Why no one realizes how brilliant I really am
Seven things on your desk:
1. Hedgehogs!
2. Mr Webcam
3. Loreena McKennit and Tori Amos CDs
4. My newly arrived American edition of 'Coraline' signed by Neil Gaiman
5. Lots of pictures I still need to get scanned
6. A small bottle of Apple Tango
7. Various computer accessories (printer, scanner, etc)
Right now you are:
1. Alternating between very depressed and my normal cheerful self
2. Bored
3. Wishing I had Billy Boyd's phone number
4. Wishing I was popular
6. Wishing I had more friends
7. Playing with Hannah the Hedgehog
Seven facts about you:
1. I am a procastinating perfectionist -- 'if it's not perfect it's not worth doing.'
2. I have met all 5 remaining members of Monty Python's Flying Circus
3. If I were an animal I would be a cute, playful otter.
4. I have an almost insufferable tendency to look down on those less clever than me
5. I was bitten by a wild dolphin when I was seven years old
6. I fall madly in love with fictional characters
7. I love sushi.
Seven things you plan to do before you die:
1. Go back to New Zealand
2. Sing onstage in the West End or Broadway
3. Meet all the famous and talented people that I love
4. Learn to accept and love myself
5. Learn Elvish and/or Japanese
6. Eat all the fabulous foods I've ever wanted
7. Invent a way to live forever ;-)
Seven things you can do:
1. Recite the words to every Monty Python sketch
2. Sing!
3. Spout absolutely useless trivia for any situation
4. Eat sushi and like it
5. Sleep all day
6. Guffaw and giggle at the same time
7. Teleport. Well, no, not really. *grins*
Seven things you can't do:
1. Remember any of the French or Latin I once knew (8 years of lessons and now *poof*, its all gone)
2. Feel confident
3. Lie convincingly
4. Eat mustard
5. Wake up at 5am with a smile on my face
6. Write poetry
7. Dance
Seven (famous) people you want to meet: (Does it matter if they're dead? too bad)
1. Oscar Wilde
2. Jane Austen
3. Billy Boyd
4. JK Rowling
5. Alan Rickman
6. Stephen Fry
7. Ian McKellen
Top seven songs people should give a listen.
1. Pop Singers Fear of the Pollen Count -- The Divine Comedy
2. Precious Things -- Tori Amos
3. All Souls Night -- Loreena McKennit
4. She Moved Through the Fair -- Lothlorien
5. King of Spain -- Moxy Fruvous
6. Alternative Girlfriend -- Barenaked Ladies
7. Eleanor Rigby -- The Beatles
Seven movies you watch all the time:
1. Wargames
2. The Lord of the Rings - The Fellowship of the Ring
3. Sneakers
4. The Truth About Cats and Dogs
5. Labyrinth
6. The Princess Bride
7. Monty Python's Life of Brian
Top 7 things you say the most:
1. Squeeee!
2. Go me!
3. Brilliant!
4. Bah.
5. Arse!
6. Ohmygod!
7. Cool. :)
Well, now that I have just wasted an obsene amount of time filling out that quiz, I think I shall retire to bed. :)
:)
Date: 2002-09-28 05:45 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2002-09-28 06:07 pm (UTC)/end gushing over LM/
Squeeeeee!
Date: 2002-09-28 06:14 pm (UTC)I am SUCH a LM fan, I could listen to her music all day, all week, etc etc (and sometimes do ;-). She is so phenonomally talented, there isn't a single song of hers I don't enjoy. The Book of Secrets and Mask and Mirror are my favourite albums, but there are brilliant songs on every CD.
We need to spread the word, and get people all over the world to worship the genius that is Loreena! :D
Thanks for reading through my long quizzy btw. *grins*
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Date: 2002-09-28 06:16 pm (UTC)How can you comprehend how someone who is your friend is also friends with someone who has openly stated their animosity towards you, but has never even spoken to you and knows nothing about you?
For a minute there, I was positive that I was reading my own writing.
I'm sorry you also must go through such crap. *sigh*. If I ever figure out how to fix things with my own situation, I'll let you know the trick. :p
*hugs*.
Re: :)
Date: 2002-09-28 06:22 pm (UTC)Thank you munchkin. :)) *squeeeeeze*
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Date: 2002-09-28 06:23 pm (UTC)Heh, cheers Erik. :)
I'm sorry ANYone has to deal with such rubbish, but that's life I guess. *small sigh*
Re: Squeeeeee!
Date: 2002-09-28 06:36 pm (UTC)we must convert the world to the goodness that is LM-ism. I should take Mask and Mirror to work with me and play that sometime, see if I can get anyone else addicted. do you have the Live in Paris double-CD? it's a lot better than I thought it would be...I thought her music wouldn't lend itself as well to a live audience but she's just as good in person. I'd love to see her live sometime, but I doubt she'll ever come here. :(
Re: Squeeeeee!
Date: 2002-09-28 06:39 pm (UTC)I do indeed have the Live in Paris and Toronto album, and I love it. Some songs I actually prefer live, but I'll take LM any way I can get her. *grins*
She hasn't done an album or a tour for 6 years now, who knows if she'll ever make music again?
:)
Date: 2002-09-28 06:54 pm (UTC)Hello hello!
Date: 2002-09-28 07:00 pm (UTC)Gosh, thank you so much! *blushes happily*
I'm ever so pleased to know I can bring a smile to someone's face. *G*
*hugs* *bounces off to add you to her friends list* :)
Re: Squeeeeee!
Date: 2002-09-28 07:23 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2002-09-28 07:39 pm (UTC)She stopped writing after her husband died, didn't you know?
*huggles*
Date: 2002-09-28 08:04 pm (UTC)When I was in middle school there was a girl that completely hated my guts, even though I never interacted with her at all. Heck, I didn't interact with hardly anyone back then, I was so shy. The really bizarre thing was she didn't even know why she hated me. She use to eat lunch with one of my sisters for awhile and just flat out told her that she hated my guts and didn't know why - she just did.
I suppose jealousy could have been a motive, since I hadn't done anything to her outside an occassional "hi". Or maybe I walked passed her without noticing - I made a habit back then to keep to myself and ignoring pretty much everyone if I could get away with it. So maybe that hurt her feelings, even though she knew it wasn't anything personal. There were other people who did make fun of her who she hated less, though.
In short, I will never know why she had such animosity towards me. I sometimes wonder if she ever figured it out.
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Date: 2002-09-28 08:32 pm (UTC)I know. *squishes*
I'm just so NICE dammit -- what's not to love about me? *laughs*
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Date: 2002-09-28 08:44 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2002-09-28 11:15 pm (UTC)Gosh that could have been me a few years back writing! One of the things that can be hard to comprehend when you are without malice towards others is that someone who is a hateful person inside can find the above qualities hateful because they lack them. You become their shadow self and that can lead to irrational behavior.
They may show a different face to your other friend. However, it is important to be on your guard because people that are hateful will often try to spread that.
Not sure what the answer is. Communication is one key being clear with your mutual friend that this is uncomfortable for you because you do not understand why this person has such animosity towards you. Perhaps ask that if the subject of you is raised by this other person that they make it clear they do not wish also to be drawn in.
Hate... YOU?!?!
Date: 2002-09-29 03:46 am (UTC)I really think you should ask your friend if he/she can talk to this person who hates you, and figure out *why* this person hates you. This might help your friend make up his/her mind about what he/she really feels about this other person. For example, if this person hates you for some stupid reason that your friend doesn't agree with, and refuses to listen to reason. OK, it wouldn't be fair to ask your friend to risk *their* friendship by taking your side unless he/she chooses to, but I think somehow you need to figure out *why* this person hates you. It may be a misunderstanding. It happens easily, even more so online.
I was in a situation like that some years ago, only that *I* was the person who hated somebody. We were members of the same Tolkien Society ( yep, I *used* to be a fan ) and I'm not a perfectly normal person, neither is she, and somehow she ended up hurting me so badly that I couldn't be near her. All the people in the Tolkien Society liked her, and they liked me as well. *She* had no problems with having *me* around, so I couldn't ask the others to choose between her and me, it'd just result in her coming anyway and me having to leave. After a year I had "recovered" enough to be back, and now I can be in the same room with her and even ( barely ) play RPG with her. Then I lost interest in Tolkien completely anyway ( not to the extent that I didn't adore the movie, though ) so I left again.
I think fantasy-based communities and online communities attract ppl who in many cases don't make friends very easliy IRL, and are emotionally vulnerable and in some cases not psychologically healthy. This leads to more potential conflicts, especially since it's easier to be anonymous online, and rumours spread very easily. ( Just these very facts about the ppl who join online communities can lead to some very good things too; those of you who received the "Crackpots" story in the mail know what I mean. )
Try to talk to the ppl in question; demand honesty and openness, but not loyalty. If your friend wants to be friends with both of you, it's up to you if you want to be friends with him/her. The worst thing is not knowing, then you base your assumptions and feelings on unknown facts, and you won't make the right decisions. That was one of my problems with You-Know-Which online community.
I know this is no fun, but we all know it happens to most of us sooner or later, it's ( unfortunately! ) human nature! Remember you have lots of other friends out here! Some of them you've even met IRL, you lucky [ insert appropriate or not-so-appropriate noun here ]! ;-)
*BIG HUGS* Aquila Malfoy
Re: Squeeeeee!
Date: 2002-09-29 08:39 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2002-09-29 09:06 am (UTC)Why hello there! *grins and waves cheerfully*
I think I've seen you before on Bibliophilia, it's a pleasure to meet you. :)
And yes, I *do* have impeccable taste, thank you for noticing. *winks playfully* ;-)
Re: :)
Date: 2002-09-29 10:05 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2002-09-29 12:08 pm (UTC)...Especially when you're in angsty high school and it involves a boy.
**runs and hides**
And, by the way, I love Oscar Wilde and Arthur Dent and Terry Pratchett and YOU. **squish** You ARE brilliant.
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Date: 2002-09-29 12:18 pm (UTC)GO ME!
God I'm just so amazing. *lmao*
Re: Squeeeeee!
Date: 2002-09-29 05:42 pm (UTC)Always nice to discover some new LM fans!
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Date: 2002-09-29 05:51 pm (UTC)I know how you feel; been there, done that, and it's awful and I hope that the problem dissolves for you. It's the worst feeling.
::huggles::
I hate the fact that words on a screen aren't more effective comfort than this.
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Date: 2002-09-29 06:10 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2002-09-29 06:17 pm (UTC)I have many friends who do not get along, or who have friends who hate me sight unseen, having never even met, being one of those notorious people who are trailed by many legends and rumours, most of which I've never even heard. As long as their dramas aren't played out in my presence, I care not one whit about these animosities, but they all too often seem to spill out at the worst possible times.
I keep a somewhat stern countenance for such a reason, so the drama types keep their distance, and because I just happen to have one of those stern faces so it is easy.
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Date: 2002-09-29 10:44 pm (UTC)Words on a screen DO help, trust me. Thank you. *cuddles* :))
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Date: 2002-09-30 01:58 am (UTC)